Subculture Science Research Group the 6th meeting: What is the point of football viewing?

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Dialogue

R: I don’t understand soccer at all, but you can talk a lot, can’t you tarky?

R: I don’t know anything about soccer, but you can talk a lot, can’t you? tarky: That’s because I used to go to the home games of my favorite clubs quite often.

Hanasana: In Hiroshima, there’s Sanfrecce Hiroshima. A recent topic for Sanfrecce Hiroshima is the Emperor’s Cup. In soccer, from the top to the bottom, there is J1, J2, J3, and JFL, and there was a giant-killing when they were trounced 1-5 by a team from the fifth division.

R: Is that supposed to be an unbelievable story?

tarky: It’s just like a good student at Nada High School being trounced by an ordinary public school student in a mock exam. In baseball, it’s like a professional losing to an amateur.

Hanasana: The interesting thing about the tournament system is that such a huge upset can happen. However, Hiroshima’s tactics themselves are not very interesting because they play with a solid defense and a strong foreigner who scores goals.

tarky: It’s interesting to see how each club has different core tactics and how far they are willing to go to win. In soccer, the tactics of a team change depending on various factors, so one of the ways to enjoy soccer is to consider these factors. It’s interesting to see how the relationship between the players really manifests itself. In baseball, you can see how good the catcher is at various positions.

R: There are many cultural differences between baseball and soccer, aren’t there? I think there are a lot of player transfers in soccer.

R: I think there are a lot of player transfers in soccer. Hanasana: According to some people, professional baseball is a job in the baseball world, while professional soccer is a private business. You seek a club with good conditions for you, and it’s normal to have an agent.

Conversation

  • Soccer
    • There is a local club
      • Osaka
        • Cerezo Osaka
        • Gamba Osaka
      • Hiroshima
        • Sanfrecce Hiroshima
      • Tokyo
        • FC Tokyo
    • Recent Interesting Events
      • Multiple major upsets in the second round of the Emperor’s Cup?
        • Tournament system, with amateur players including adult clubs and universities participating
        • Giant-killing is likely to happen
          • Gamba Osaka was beaten by a university
        • In the 2020 and 2021 seasons, the unbeaten Kawasaki Frontale almost lost to AC Nagano Valseiro (J3 team). They narrowly won in a penalty shootout.
        • Sanfrecce Hiroshima lost 1-5 to Okoshiyasu Kyoto AC. Sanfrecce Hiroshima is ranked 6th in the j1 league. They are rather strong.
    • The stats are detailed.
      • On DAZN, you can see the number of sprints, distance traveled, number of successful passes, etc. for each individual.
      • The data must be accumulated in various ways.
      • One of the applications of operations research
      • There was a season when the analysis showed that the method of crossing from the side was inefficient. Is this the reason why coach Jung-hwan Yoon changed the team tactics in his second term at Cerezo?
      • In baseball, there are sabermetrics.
        • Is the bunt effective? Controversy
        • Moneyball.
          • Collecting players based on their on-base percentage ends up being imitated by the powerhouses
      • Is data analysis a means to a weak point? Liverpool, which won the Premiership, had a coach who specialized in a limited number of plays called throw-ins. The value of data analysis is now widespread.
  • There are two main types of teams
    1. poor clubs that develop young players
      • Kawasaki Frontale, Cerezo Osaka, Dortmund, Renofa Yamaguchi?
    2. the rich who buy up budding players
      • Gamba Osaka, Urawa Reds, etc.?
  • Players representing Cerezo Osaka
    • Yoshito Okubo, Shinji Kagawa, Takashi Inui, Hirotsugu Kiyotake, Takumi Minamino, Yoichiro Kakitani, Hotaru Yamaguchi, Morishima, Sakamoto, Kenyuu Sugimoto, etc.
    • Many of them are coming back to Japan.
    • Are you recruiting players by supporting them to step up overseas?
  • Recently, transfers to the Belgian league are the mainstream, with Japanese capital connections.
    • Tomiyasu and Kamata are successful examples.
    • Junya Ito and Yuma Suzuki are the future?
  • Many players move between clubs
    • Baseball players are employed in the baseball world, soccer players are sole proprietors
    • The concept of rental, transfer for a limited time
    • Transfers to rival teams (derby opponents) are not so welcome
  • Stadium atmosphere
    • In Premier League and Bundesliga, police are mobilized to prevent supporters from touching each other during derby matches.
    • J-League is easy for families to go and watch.
      • There are preferential prices for children. Consistent with the development of young players and supporters
  • View of the game
    • Glimpse into the philosophy of the management, the values of the team, the coach’s leadership skills, and the intelligence of the players
    • When the management changes, player acquisition and coach personnel changes
    • When the manager changes, the team tactics and the way the players are used change.
    • Players’ abilities change their understanding of team tactics and play selection
    • There is also chemistry between players.
      • Maruhashi and Kakitani, who both came from the same youth team, were able to work together with remarkable precision.
    • There is also compatibility with the tactics of the opponents.
  • Smart players
    • Iniesta, Yasuhito Endo, Kengo Nakamura
      • The ability to see far, the speed of their decisions, their ideas, and their skill with their feet.
      • The presence of players who can respond to them. Furuhashi, Yoshito Okubo, and many others.
    • I like Yamamura’s positioning sense in Cerezo days.
  • It’s good to see super plays and goals.
  • It is good to see super plays and goals. Sometimes you will find a player who has extraordinary foresight.

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